"Hey, you...guy. The dames, eh? Yeah, the dames. Stupid dames. You having any luck with the horses? No, the horses are all...idiots. You know, between the dames and the horses, sometimes I don't even know why I put my hat on."
That's how people talk in bars, isn't it?
- book: meaningful consensual sex scene that has implications for both characters and gives insight into the nature of a 30+ year long relationship
- show: rape
the number one thing about that change that bothers me is that i’m positive d&d did it to make cersei more sympathetic. because no woman would ever want sex while she’s grieving. no woman would ever want sex near her dead son. no woman would EVER WANT THAT. nevermind that in the book it’s obviously consensual, nevermind that in the books cersei’s love for joffrey comes mostly from the fact that he gives her power and the knowledge that if her children die, she’ll be next, nevermind that in the books cersei’s grief over joffrey’s death is only solaced by jaime’s penis. no woman could ever possibly have wanted that.
literally all they had to do to make that scene not rape is have cersei say ‘yes jaime i have you you’re home you’re home you’re home’ instead of ‘this isn’t right!!!!!!!!!’ and it would have been FINE they made a CONSCIOUS DECISION to turn consensual loving sex into rape that was a decision d&d made and I probably won’t ever stop being angry about it.
There was this weird moment where I thought it was going to be all right, too, you know? I mean, there was the moment she kissed him, she pulled away, there was the weird tonal dissonant space where the show flipped into rape (dissonant even for the show, which doesn’t care about female consent of course but does care about Jaime the dude’s character likability, dissonant within its own scene). And the kiss was strange and rough but there was the moment of her stroking his cheek and I thought, this isn’t right, this isn’t well-written or well-characterized or emotionally legitimate, but this isn’t going to be—
But no, the scene was about throwing Cersei to the ground and tearing her clothes off and making her cry. Like, well, like Cersei’s entire in-book sex life outside of Jaime. Outside of Jaime, with Jaime as her sole and emphatic solace and the one time it gets to be about her ever experiencing sex without violation.
jaime would not rape cersei
the whole point of that fucking scene
is that she says yes
she says you’re home
she says you’re here
and then he fucks it up NOT BY FUCKING HER but by PROPOSING TO HER and telling her that they can replace their dead son with a new one
it’s not the sex that’s the problem it’s jaime’s newly arisen insecurity from his lack of a sword hand
THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT CERSEI SAYS YES
if u needed one last nail in the coffin of ‘d&d don’t get women and this is not a feminist show’, they felt the need to turn a consensual (if nutso) sex scene into a completely out of character rape in order to make it seem like cersei had sexual agency (because whO would EVer wanT THaT???)
- Why must you be such a cow, we’re sisters!
- You tell people we are not related!
- It was just that one time!
- At Grandpa’s wake!
♕ Ellaria Sand in Game of Thrones Season 4 “The Lion and the Rose”
“We are everywhere in Dorne. I have ten thousand brothers and sisters.”